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just got vw phaeton air shock problem
07-02-2020, 02:00 PM
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just got vw phaeton air shock problem
just got a 210 pheaton 3l tdi for a song but front air shock has popped as the owner described it.are they rebuildable or second hand one from the bay of thieves
fraid it in garage for it as my shoulder is knackered at the moment

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08-02-2020, 05:07 PM
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RE: just got vw phaeton air shock problem
do i chance it on bio

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08-02-2020, 06:23 PM
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RE: just got vw phaeton air shock problem
Don't know how much it differs from the Audi Allroad, but from my experience with the Allroad I wouldn't expect an AirSpring to last that long once it has come off the car. The Allroad ones tend to develop pin holes in the rubber which leads to the suspension slowly going down when the car is parked up, but when in operation that compressor keeps enough air in the system that you don't realise until the compressor gives up also.

It is a couple of hours work on the Allroad to change an Airspring - less if everything is clean and free from corrosion (little change since it is under the car).
If the Airspring has blown a large hole in it, then check the compressor carefully as it may be on its way out from trying to keep the Airpspring pressurised.

If you intend to keep the car for a while, I would go for a new unit. but if you just want to see how it suits you first, then gtting a "cheap" one from fleabay might be worth while - if you were doing it yourself. Having a garage replace it, could result in more time cleaning up various bits in order to put a used one in and cost just as much due to time as putting a new one in. You will have to talk to your garage to find out.

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08-02-2020, 07:43 PM
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RE: just got vw phaeton air shock problem
its in my local indi got rotator cuff problems but he will probably let me clean the bits when off so he can get on with other jobs
will have to see the condition then decide if i can get away with new bladder ot air spring used unit
to be honest i got it so cheap it was unbelievable

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09-02-2020, 04:29 PM
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RE: just got vw phaeton air shock problem
If the air suspension is anything like that used on Discoveries and on Citroen C8's and so on , then it is a pretty straight forward system.
This is a post I put on another forum copied across, but it largely applies....
"Unlike Citroen Hydraulics, I can't say I'm very familiar with air suspension, but certainly on Discoverys the first sign of a problem was that the bags used to leak so the pump ran all the time, the way to check this was to spray the bag with WD40, if there were loads of bubbles then it was time to renew the bag *** before it ruptured***. It sounds like one of your bags has gone beyond this stage and actually ruptured.

The ebay advert says the bags fit various versions of the Jumpy and I suspect that the item would fit yours too. Why not contact the seller and check if you are not confident. Most car parts are made by third party suppliers, not the manufacturer themselves , like Valeo alternators and Bosch brakes, these air bags will be bought in by Citroen.

On Discos the pressure pipes were a simple push fit system with 3.5mm pipes and a ring that was retracted to release the pipe ( when pressured down obviously). The disco units were held in place with a couple of bolts in an end plate and a cup the other end fitted into. These ones look like they just fit into cups , but until you examine them it's hard to tell exactly. You can't drive your vehicle with it down on the ground , so you need either a mobile mechanic, or a mate or it's a do it yourself job. Always put the vehicle up on stands, don't go under it just on a jack. Crack the wheel nuts loose before jacking up. I know it's not the same but changing the springs is a quick job. Release the shock so the axle can drop and the springs literally drop out, hopefully the gas bags will be just as easy to do."

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09-02-2020, 08:42 PM
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RE: just got vw phaeton air shock problem
there are a couple of youtube videos it looks fairly straight forward but my shoulder problem is stopping me doing it myself

same parts seem to be used on the bentley and audi a8 will see when my mechanic gets them off and we can decide what is the best option

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10-02-2020, 09:39 AM
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RE: just got vw phaeton air shock problem
apart from the duff air bag... what's it like to drive?
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10-02-2020, 10:38 AM
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RE: just got vw phaeton air shock problem
(10-02-2020 09:39 AM)knighty Wrote:  apart from the duff air bag... what's it like to drive?

Can't tell only drove
it home slowly but apart from hard suspension it was very nice everything worked will take me a month or two to read the manual it's electric everything

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10-02-2020, 12:17 PM
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RE: just got vw phaeton air shock problem
I'm sure it will be fine on Bio.

Always fancied a Phaeton - I'm waiting for when Large engined Diesels are being given away due to Phasing them out (by tax or or whatever method the government decides)
And then I want a 5.0 Litre V10 Phaeton Big Grin

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10-02-2020, 02:29 PM
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(10-02-2020 12:17 PM)Mr-Tickle Wrote:  I'm sure it will be fine on Bio.

Always fancied a Phaeton - I'm waiting for when Large engined Diesels are being given away due to Phasing them out (by tax or or whatever method the government decides)
And then I want a 5.0 Litre V10 Phaeton Big Grin

Ditto.

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