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Finally, I have actually got started building my GL
Well, here is the proof I am actually getting somewhere........at last. Reactor is one of Jamesrl's small models. Over the next week I hope to
finish it. First picture is the nude reactor...
Next with its first insulation coat.........
Then its second insulation coat......
And then its final insulation coat....
That is two coats of camping mat and one aluminium foil cover. Ought to keep the heat in!
Now I have a question, I have an external inline heater, does that (as I believe) need to be insulated as well?
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YES, and do it in the same way camping mat/ foil.
Insulate everything that gets hot.
Remember when dealing with heat get an adult to do it, 'cause it'll be HOT HOT HOT, as big cook always says.
Citroen 2.0HDI Piccasos, Peugot 307 2.0HDI, 50hp Isuzu marine engine and a UXD 9 Turbo all running on 100% Bio.
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Looks good Enery8.
Ive been trying to workout how to insulate my processor (when I build it), now I know 
What did you use for the fist layer ?
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for the first layer I use buiding foam, the stuff that comes in a sheet with foil either side, and you cut it into 3" strips and place it round the
drum, then add foam sheet or as is shown to hold it all together. This should allow you to heat to 60c and then not use the heater again when you add
the methoxide and carry out the process, and the end temp will still be 57c.
shame to cover up jame`s great processors but needs must prevail.
[Edited on 3/6/2008 by e3msb]
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I used Camping mats for the first two layers and Alububble Foil Insulation as suggested by Jamesrl when I bought my reactor from him.
You are right Steve, it is a shame to cover up Jame's work but you have to admit it does look quite pretty!;)
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I can assure you that the camping mats and bubble foil do a superb job. I only use 1 layer of mat and one of foil and the lot is only 14mm thick.
If I dewater at 75c in the evening and let it settle it's still around the 60c mark the following morning, sometimes a little heat is added before
brewing. I like to add methoxide at 63c.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jamesrl
YES, and do it in the same way camping mat/ foil.
Insulate everything that gets hot.
Remember when dealing with heat get an adult to do it, 'cause it'll be HOT HOT HOT, as big cook always says. |
You shouldn't be watching Big Cook, you should be in your workshop! 
Again the start of a very nice looking processor! 
[Edited on 4-6-2008 by stevee]
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| posted on 4-6-2008 at 06:40 AM |
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Excellent Im scrapping my insulation plans and going down this route. When you say camping mats do you mean the lightweight roll up things you get to
put your sleeping bag on? And where do you get them
Thanks
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| posted on 4-6-2008 at 07:32 AM |
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Looks good I shall now do the same with mine.
Where can I get an inline heater?.
And where can I get 10inch Filter cartridges?.
Many thanks Tom 
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If you have a screwfix store near you they do the filters, but a bit dear at just over £2
e3msb[steve] 96 disco 300. bio 100. Cit ZX. wvo/mix. PUG405 wvo/mix. Vintage JCB3c GT. bio. home/cent heating,wvo/glyc-oil. Linde forklift 3cyl
Deutz WVO. Petter twin diesel 7kva generator, bio and wvo. Dennis fire engine 1971. 5.8 perkins T6354 historic vehicle, bio. IF YOU HAVE GAINED
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Frisp
Excellent Im scrapping my insulation plans and going down this route. When you say camping mats do you mean the lightweight roll up things you get to
put your sleeping bag on? And where do you get them
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I have used the cheap lightwieght roll up mats, a double layer, then the alububble layer. Total thickness is probably about 21mm. I got mine from a
local cheap shop for about £2.50 each. The alububble was dearer tho' (from flebay). When I was in the cheap shop yesterday I noticed they were
selling picnic mats with an aluminium coat one one side. If I hadn't got this far I might have used one of those as the first layer.
Hope some of this helps,
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Okay, so now I have got a wee bit further.
Here is a pic of the inline heater and pump.
and the lower cross piece (more of Jamerl's work I might add)
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T'is A thing of Beauty.....
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Re cheap roll up camping mats, Morrisons (local to me in Weymouth) have them at 2 for £5. I would assume all Morrisons store will be the same.
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Bill. the Black end cap of the Immersion should NEVER be covered by insulation.
The rest is looking good, well done. I think it's the first one I've seen with secondary containment, it saves a lot of mess should some thing go
wrong.
Jim.
[Edited on 4-6-2008 by jamesrl]
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| posted on 5-6-2008 at 05:22 AM |
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Is that a dual core plumbers delight I see before me?
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| posted on 5-6-2008 at 06:50 AM |
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wow! good looking piece of kit. i like the double condensor idea. i started on mine yesterday using copper tank etc. i may include this in my build.
good work enery8. 
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Pualus, there is no need for a dual condenser if you're using a Hot water tank, Bill used his for a reason.
Providing your condenser is 1m + it'll work fine, it just so happens that every 305mm/1ft of condenser will remove 1Kw of heat.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jamesrl
Bill. the Black end cap of the Immersion should NEVER be covered by insulation.
The rest is looking good, well done. I think it's the first one I've seen with secondary containment, it saves a lot of mess should some thing go
wrong.
Jim.
[Edited on 4-6-2008 by jamesrl] |
Thanks or the tip Jim,
I have removed the extra insulation.
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More progress, wow! So here we are.
The WVO tank is now connected and has its own 22mm Ball Valve in addition to the valve on the lower cross piece. Irish belt and braces - to be sure,
to be sure! The methoxide injection system pipework is installed and the vent pipework is almost installed, just two more joints to solder. The vent
system differs somewhat from the norm as the reactor is set up in the greenhouse (so that she who must be obeyed can keep an eye on me) plus the fact
that it should help with the heating costs. So to the vent system. Here are some pictures, please let me have your opinions, good or bad.
Constructive criticism is always welcome.
This shows the current state of play.
[Edited on 22/9/08 by Enery8]
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thanks for the inspiration Enery8.
Bin building my processor house today (7 x 7 shed) from old mismatched panels and recycled pallets, hope to have it finished on Saturday.
Then Ill just be weighting for parts from jamesrl.
looking at your build I think Ill need more pipe and fittings than I thought
Keep the updates coming, looking gooooooood.
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| posted on 6-6-2008 at 05:25 AM |
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thanks jamsrl, i did only make one last evening. i had the thought that others were ok with just the one.
i do like this forum you guys are so helpful, it makes a change in todays
selfish climate.
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Well this is it, the finished article at last. I cant say it has been easy but then, as my old dad used to say......
So here are the photos,
As much of the system I could get in one pic...
Well I think its pretty anyway!
Thanks for all the help and advise and a special thanks to Graham for the design.
Bill
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| posted on 28-6-2008 at 05:02 PM |
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Must say that looks sweet m8
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