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![[*]](./images/onepoint9/default_icon.gif) posted on 23-12-2007 at 07:36 PM |
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New 'GL Eco Processor' build in progress...
The Fernox DS-3 de-scaler did a pretty good job of cleaning up the cylinder and with most of the bits & pieces obtained the build has begun in
earnest.
A couple of pics of progress thus far, if anyone can see something that is obviously not right then please let me know...
[Edited on 5-2-2008 by RioRodent]
[Edited on 5-2-2008 by RioRodent]
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thats all lookin a bit good....where you say you might put some of the pipe inside....good idea, as the only thing I could see wrong was the pump and
pipework were lookin like they were a long way from the processor....ie. the venturi usually ends up 2/3 inches from the tank...nice to see a neat
job..plus no fear of showing it for others to copy...
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the one thing that is wrong is that it should be sat in my workshop, not yours....
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| posted on 23-12-2007 at 07:58 PM |
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Neat job, well done!
One thing you may need to tweak, once things are up and running, is the level of the outlet on the WVO tank. It may be a wee bit low, for 2
reasons...
1. It isn't far from the bottom of the WVO tank, you may find it better to move the outlet up a few inches, and use the existing outlet as a drain,
just to reduce the amount of crud getting into the processor / pump impeller.
2. You'll need to have your oil level up above the pump to get flow going, as they aren't self priming, so perhaps put it on a slightly higher
pedestal, just so you can run your WVO tank 1/2 full or less, if needed. If you don't finish the loading for some reason, for example if the pump
blocks, you may need to switch off, and you may then be unable to finish loading if the level drops below pump height (I know, it's happened to me
before!)
Hope it all goes well!
GL
[Edited on 23-12-2007 by GrahamLaming]
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| posted on 23-12-2007 at 08:03 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by e3msb
thats all lookin a bit good....where you say you might put some of the pipe inside....good idea, as the only thing I could see wrong was the pump and
pipework were lookin like they were a long way from the processor....ie. the venturi usually ends up 2/3 inches from the tank...nice to see a neat
job..plus no fear of showing it for others to copy... |
Well, if I'm honest I did start on the tank connector with a half-round file, but after 10 mins I hadn't made much headway!! I would only be able to
push 3" - 4" inside any way as the heating coil will prevent it going in any further. The pump will sit fairly close to the processor, but the
vertical pipe will have quite a dog leg in it regardless.
I think it was GL who wrote that the venturi should have a 300mm straight section after it. Is that just before a bend or even as in my set-up where
the pipe from the venturi goes straight into the cylinder? How critical is this? Couls I shorten the pipe between the venturi and the cylinder?
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| posted on 23-12-2007 at 08:16 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by GrahamLaming
Neat job, well done!
One thing you may need to tweak, once things are up and running, is the level of the outlet on the WVO tank. It may be a wee bit low, for 2
reasons...
1. It isn't far from the bottom of the WVO tank, you may find it better to move the outlet up a few inches, and use the existing outlet as a drain,
just to reduce the amount of crud getting into the processor / pump impeller.
2. You'll need to have your oil level up above the pump to get flow going, as they aren't self priming, so perhaps put it on a slightly higher
pedestal, just so you can run your WVO tank 1/2 full or less, if needed. If you don't finish the loading for some reason, for example if the pump
blocks, you may need to switch off, and you may then be unable to finish loading if the level drops below pump height (I know, it's happened to me
before!)
Hope it all goes well!
GL
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Hi Graham,
Thanks for the comments... and for all you work in documenting your design!!
The WVO outlet looks lower down in that pic than it actually is, the connector is hidden behind the leg, it is 2" from the bottom of hole to the
bottom of the tank. There is also a drain in the bottom of the drum. I will see how it goes and adjust if necessary.
Thanks again,
Alan
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are you gonna stain and varnish the wood just to show us all up totally....
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| posted on 23-12-2007 at 11:57 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by e3msb
are you gonna stain and varnish the wood just to show us all up totally....
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Antique Oak might look quite nice. 
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| posted on 24-12-2007 at 12:06 AM |
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I saw the post where GL said there should be 300mm after the venturi, if its critical turn the tank 180* and run the pipe across the top of the tank
and put a small break in the pipe then you can straighten the pipe from the pump its going to look neater
JIM.M
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| posted on 25-12-2007 at 05:14 PM |
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A little more progress... I persevered with the file on the tank connector at the top and now have about 100mm of the tube inside the tank. It sits
about 20mm from the heating coil on the inside, so that should cause things to splash about a bit and aid mixing.
[Edited on 25-12-2007 by RioRodent]
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| posted on 28-12-2007 at 05:25 PM |
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Just a bit more to do, to connect the bottom of the condensor to the input to the venturi... then time for a test run with water to find the leaks and
see if the home-made venturi will suck well enough.
Then time to talk filters...
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| posted on 29-12-2007 at 07:44 PM |
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Filled it with water today... just a couple of dripping compression joints... tightened and now leak free. 
The home-made venturi works a treat, it sucked up 20 litres of water in 3 mins... I think it will need the valve barely open to slow it down to
20 mins, time to experiment a little.
Not sure about the clip on thermometer, it doesn't show anything like the actual temp of the water... anyone any suggestions?
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they are not good at best. the BES one at £14 is a good one but you need to to drill a 10mm hole for it, as you can well understand its important to
have a good temperature reading......
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| Quote: | Originally posted by e3msb
they are not good at best. the BES one at £14 is a good one but you need to to drill a 10mm hole for it, as you can well understand its important to
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10mm holes are no problem. How does it attach, is it all done from the outsde?
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forgot you had a copper cylinder. it needs access for the nut, or you can put it in a bush with a tee somewhere in the pipework. the probe bit sticks
out about 30mm. or they do one with a capillary lead that you could feed into the old heating coil and get a reading from the heart of the cylinder.
they work out fairly accurate.....
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I had been considering using the heating coil... 1" - 1/2" BSP reducer on bottom of coil, screw Thermometer into that... then part fill the coil with
oil from the top.
Sound like a plan?
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with the capillary one you feed the lead into the coil and eventually the tip rests on the copper coil next to the oil, accurate to about 1 degree,
but theres no reason why your idea wouldnt work the same, with or without the oil, as the metal would transfer the heat just the same, as it does in
the immersion heater tube for the stat....
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Nearly there...
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| posted on 5-1-2008 at 09:22 PM |
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Yeah yeah yeah, that's quite enough showing off thank you very much.
That is one of the best looking homemade processors i've seen! Superb job! When it's up and running you should start a new thread with these pics and
total PRICES - therefore we can point anyone to it whom even mentions one of these ridiculous £500 plastic things or an ebay heap.
Cracking work
ELT H.
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rely on ELT to tell it as it is.....
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Elt,
I wish you would use capitals in the right place, it's "I've" not "i've".
People in glass houses. LOL.
And you never said things like that about my home built double skinned reactor, I'm beginning to think you don't love me any more.
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Well done, you spotted it! Just testing.
Your home built double skinned reactor is the WORST home built double skinned reactor I have EVER seen.
It is also the best, as it is the ONLY home built double skinned reactor I've ever seen!
You massage your own ego enough Jim, you don't need me to do it!  Keep up the
tip-top top-notch metal bashing - it certainly is a dying art. 
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Hi Rodent,
I like the look of your reactor vessel. How many litres will you be able to make in a batch?, and do you think the dome on the bottom is going to be
enough of a cone to get the glycerine out? Is the tank actually upside down??
Would it be possible to actually use the heating coil to heat the oil by plumbing it into a hot water circuit with a pump and immersion heater??
Sorry, I've just re-read this post ands it's nothing but questions 
Thanks for you time
Paul.
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