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Babington waste oil heater - Version 2 - OMG!!!!!
Wow,
I am so excited that I have run into the house to upload some pics and tell you all the sucess I have just had.
Following on from the not so good first run of version2 of my DIY Babington waste oil heater I have finally suceeded in bettering my best hopes of
sucess.
Check out the vid of it running, cherry red, oh how much that made me smile, lol
DIY_VEGI_heater_version_2.wmv
[Edited on 17-5-2009 by delbert]
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![[*]](./images/onepoint9/default_icon.gif) posted on 16-5-2009 at 09:34 PM |
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nice one big nose!!can you braze with that!!
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| posted on 16-5-2009 at 09:37 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jezmondo
nice one big nose!!can you braze with that!! |
Mondo it should do, brazing requires about 1400 `F and I am sure this baby is running higher than that.
Stainless steel glowing in all it's glory, yum yum
[Edited on 16-5-2009 by delbert]
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| posted on 16-5-2009 at 09:43 PM |
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wow that looks good !
does it use much oil ?
what are you going to use it for ? or is it just to experiment / play with ?
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| posted on 16-5-2009 at 09:44 PM |
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Any chance of a parts deskription please.
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| posted on 16-5-2009 at 10:12 PM |
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can you control the heat output, if you can it would run your central heating, does it have to be heated with a blowlamp to get it started or will it
start with spark ignition, however it works it looks impressive
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| posted on 16-5-2009 at 11:32 PM |
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WOW - THATS IMPRESSIVE !
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| posted on 17-5-2009 at 08:09 AM |
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WOW!
Brilliant...
Can I fit one on the back of the 405?
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| posted on 17-5-2009 at 08:16 AM |
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the last time i saw something like that it was in a film and strapped to the back of a german bomb.
how do you plan to persuade the missus to let you bring it into the lounge?
quite brilliant, can't wait to see V.3
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| posted on 17-5-2009 at 10:48 AM |
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Very impressed.
I echo the above - how about some drawings?
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Thats awesome, I've seem sevral videos of home made jet engines on youtube who's outlets look very similar.
Now it runs on oil have you tried it on liquid glyc?
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| posted on 17-5-2009 at 11:53 AM |
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I have to concur, its extremely impressive.
Like many I'm dying to know how much oil it uses and if possible to see a drawing of how its made along with a list of parts
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| posted on 17-5-2009 at 12:53 PM |
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Gents,
Thanks for all the kind words as usual and as per popular demand I will do a full pic break down this afternoon and hope to post the pics to the forum
later today.
The burner is so simple to build, seriously simple but saying that I am lucky enough to be pretty handy at the old engeneering and DIY aad also have
some handy tools which does aid construction but honestly yuo do not need a great deal of bit or tools to build such a device.
Regarding being able to alter the heat output, yes I think you can, changing the air pressure and oil flow defo changes the heat output, in the vid
the air pressure was set at 23psi, I wonder how it would react if I increase this, hmm...
I found the original issue with v2 to be caused by my hole size, .3mm is just too small to have a single hole, v2 as per the vid sports 2 x 0.3mm
holes spaced about 3mm apart and the fuel delivery is via a modified delivery nossel.
Regarding Fuel usage a funnel full lasts about 15-20 mins then need topping up, however most of the oil falls down then support tube and can be
reused, version 3 (in production) will have a recover and supply pump.
I can not see my setup using more than a litre max, per hour but am expecting more like 1/2 litre per hour.
[Edited on 17-5-2009 by delbert]
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| posted on 17-5-2009 at 02:17 PM |
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Good to see you've got it sorted out now Del, is the air supply still from compressor?
The babs I've seen info on seem to be in the 1/2 - 1.5 litre fuel usage per hour, average seems about 3/4 -1 litre.
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| posted on 17-5-2009 at 02:43 PM |
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that looks like a better system for putting some useful heat into your house than an Alaska if you can control it, the noise from the compressor may
be a problem unless you had a large air receiver that would hold enough high pressure air that could could be stepped down to keep it running for a
few hours
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| posted on 17-5-2009 at 02:45 PM |
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from the vid it doesn't look as if you are making any soot can you confirm it burns clean over the long term
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| posted on 17-5-2009 at 02:46 PM |
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Good work there dude how do you light it?
A certain size jet will have an optimum air pressure to get it atomising but not wasting air or spraying too far . This is why for temperature control
it is better to have few jets that can be switched in and out rather than trying to alter the flow of air and or oil on one jet. This also aids it
not going out as the smallest jet you've got will be stable once alight and acts as a pilot to light the bigger jets when you turn them on which is
simply opening an air valve as the oil can run over all the jets all the time. What did you make the jet out of in the end? Hypo needle seems to work
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| posted on 17-5-2009 at 04:57 PM |
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Here you go an over extensive collection of photos of the individual parts used to make my working Babington
This is lit using a blow torch, simply pass the flame past the angled side tube to ignight the baby.
This is the burner tube, simply a piece of 60mm stainless steel tube aprox 9 inches long.
Tt has a angled tube on the side and this is used for ignition and to allow easy viewing of the flame.
This is the atomiser assembly, and is made from an old door knob and some 8mm copper pipe, the pipe supplies the air into the knob which then exits
through two tiny holes in the ball of the knob.
Exploded view of the atomiser assembly
Another view of the atomiser assembly, the bolt allows the atomiser to be adjusted in and out.
The oil delivery nossle and retaining clip
The oil delivery nossle and retaining clip together
Another view of how the atomiser and oil delivery nosel come together in the main tube.
The bodged oil tank, simply a funnel and a wine making tap.
The main body of the burner
I have now made a new oil feeder tank, its about 3/4 a pint and lasts for about 10 or so mins, this will be toped up in hte next version using an old
fuel pump, I am going to add a level switch to control the fill rate.
[Edited on 17-5-2009 by delbert]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JIM.M
from the vid it doesn't look as if you are making any soot can you confirm it burns clean over the long term |
Howdy Jim
In reply, once lit and upto heat there is no soot produced, it is amazingly effecient and hardly smells of chips at all.
Inside the burner tube there is nothing left or deposited.
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| posted on 17-5-2009 at 05:22 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Chug
Good to see you've got it sorted out now Del, is the air supply still from compressor?
The babs I've seen info on seem to be in the 1/2 - 1.5 litre fuel usage per hour, average seems about 3/4 -1 litre. |
Hey Chug,
currently still running from my main workshop compressor but I hagve plans to modify an old gas bottle and charge this with an old 12v tire pump, well
that is the plan so far but that may change.
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| posted on 17-5-2009 at 05:54 PM |
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delbert.
Some of the babington's I've seen have to pre-heat the oil, is this not the case with yours?
These look awesome, very impressive, I'm going to make one as soon as I finish the bio plant
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| posted on 17-5-2009 at 06:07 PM |
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hmm pics not loading for me?
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| posted on 17-5-2009 at 07:41 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Taxi
delbert.
Some of the babington's I've seen have to pre-heat the oil, is this not the case with yours?
These look awesome, very impressive, I'm going to make one as soon as I finish the bio plant
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Hello Taxi,
You are right I have seen quite a few other examples as you say that preheat the oil, However in my limited expierence I have found cold oil to be
just as good, what it will be like in the winter who knows.
My intention is to use this to heat my workshop in the cold winter months, "down south" so may have to look at heating the oil.
I forgot to memtion that the oil I am using is not filtered, nor dewatered, just the best stuff from each new pickup.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Rotary-Motion
hmm pics not loading for me? |
Morning RM, are you still having problems with Images loading?
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| posted on 18-5-2009 at 12:41 PM |
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thats looking really good delbert.... I think you've got us all twitching and itching to build our own !
I did have an idea tho.... instead of using a level switch to control the pump... which could be a bit tricky inside the small reservoir at the
top.... it would be easier to fit an overflow at the top of it and then plumb this back into your storage tank below.... leave the pump running all
the time... once it's full the oil will just cycle round back down into the storage tank...
added bonus is because it will always be at the same level (full) you could have a more constant flow rate out of the tap :-)
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